Politics Dems see Mueller firing as a red line on impeachment

13:35  16 april  2018
13:35  16 april  2018 Source:   The Hill

Poll: Nearly 70 percent of Americans say Trump shouldn't fire Mueller

  Poll: Nearly 70 percent of Americans say Trump shouldn't fire Mueller A majority of American voters believe that President Trump should not fire special counsel Robert Mueller, according to a poll released Tuesday.A Quinnipiac University poll, conducted April 6-9, found that 69 percent of voters, including 55 percent of Republicans, oppose Trump firing Mueller. Just 13 percent of voters said they support Trump firing Mueller, according to the poll.A little more than half - 52 percent - of voters said Mueller is conducting a "fair investigation." Among Republicans, 54 percent said they believe the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election is not fair.

Shaub is right about the red line . If Trump fires Mueller , as many now speculate is possible What I want to see is Trump brought up on the violations of the Constitution Impeachment will not occur until we have a Dem majority, Dems with a backbone and a commitment to the salvation of our nation.

Mark Warner didn’t use the word “ impeachment ” in his Senate floor speech on Wednesday. But the Senate intelligence committee’s top Democrat left the implication clear when he argued Nevertheless, Rosenstein said he saw no good cause to fire Mueller and would not do so without such cause.

Donald Trump wearing a suit and tie © Provided by The Hill Democrats considered potential presidential candidates say if President Trump fires special counsel Robert Mueller, it would be grounds for impeachment.

The would-be candidates, who have been careful in their comments about the politically thorny issue, have now begun to qualify on what grounds they would push for impeachment.

And they are signaling that terminating Mueller is a red line.

At a town hall in Sacramento last week, Sen. Kamala Harris (Calif.) said a firing of the special counsel would be an impeachable offense.

"I can't see how it wouldn't be," she told constituents.

Graham uses Fox News appearance to ask Trump not to fire Mueller

  Graham uses Fox News appearance to ask Trump not to fire Mueller Sen. Lindsey Graham asked President Trump during an appearance on Fox News to not fire special counsel Robert Mueller, who is currently investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election. "Mr. President, if you're watching, I think you're gonna be fine unless you screw this up," Graham said on Fox News. "Let the process play out. I don't believe you colluded with th e Russians, but Mueller will soon tell us. The Cohen situation I am convinced has got nothing to do with Russia.

For one, firing Mueller would cross a red line , analogous to Nixon's firing of Archibald Cox during Watergate, pushing establishment Republicans to entertain the possibility of impeachment . REPUBLIKKKS nominated this criminal clown, not Dems . maxsolomon. Nov 1.

These truly are red lines and [Congress] simply cannot allow them to be crossed,” explained Warner. Of course. But why wait for Mueller to get fired to act on impeachment ? Waiting until Mueller is fired is TOO LATE! We need to see the results of the complete investigation, whatever the

Harris repeated the sentiment again in Washington this week, saying firing Mueller would "certainly yield impeachment hearings."

Across the country, when Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) was asked about impeaching Trump at a town hall meeting in her home state of Massachusetts last week, she also turned to Mueller.

"Right now, I believe it is absolutely critical that the special counsel, Mueller, be allowed to complete his investigation in full with no interference from anyone," Warren said.

On Friday, Warren took to Twitter to urge Democrats in the Senate to pass a bipartisan bill "to ensure that Mueller can complete a full, independent investigation."

"Let's send a loud, clear message that no one is above the law - not even the President of the United States," she wrote.

Dershowitz: Mueller's goal is to write a report in hopes Congress uses it to impeach Trump

  Dershowitz: Mueller's goal is to write a report in hopes Congress uses it to impeach Trump Attorney Alan Dershowitz said he thinks special counsel Robert Mueller's goal is to produce a report in the hopes that Congress moves to impeach President Trump. "I think that's the plan," Dershowitz told Fox News's Sean Hannity, when asked about Mueller's ultimate endgame. Dershowitz added that he doesn't believe Trump should "plead the fifth.""If he pleads the fifth, Mueller gives him immunity and then he has to te stify and immunity doesn't cover impeachment," Dershowitz said.Mueller is investigating Russian election interference and possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

There will be articles of impeachment if he fires Mr. Mueller . We didn’t act when he fired Comey. We should act if he fires Mueller . And I plan to take that action. I say this in closing we have seen under this president a deterioration of respect for the rule of law.

Sanders: Dems 'Jumping the Gun' on Impeachment Talk NewsmaxWhat if Donald Trump loses and refuses to leave? | Firing Mueller would, or course, be the quickest way for Trump to get impeached , which might explain a The bottom line : There’s a case to be made against Mueller .

An aide to Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) also drew the line at Mueller's firing.

Gillibrand believes that Mueller "needs to be allowed to do his job without interference from the White House," the aide said, adding that she backs the bipartisan legislation meant to offer some protection for the special counsel.

"When the investigation is complete, Congress will need to do its job based on the facts," the aide said.

Offices to a few possible Democratic contenders in 2020, including Sens. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), and Amy Klobuchar (Minn.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.), did not respond to a request for comment.

In December, Sanders (I-Vt.), who ran as a Democrat during the 2016 presidential election, urged Democrats not to "jump the gun" when it comes to impeachment. Sanders said Democrats should wait for the Mueller investigation to be completed before they decide how to move forward on impeachment.

Trump insists that if he wanted to fire Mueller, he already would have

  Trump insists that if he wanted to fire Mueller, he already would have President Donald Trump said Thursday that if he wanted to fire special counsel Robert Mueller, he would have months ago. "If I wanted to fire Robert Mueller in December, as reported by the Failing New York Times, I would have fired him. Just more Fake News from a biased newspaper," Trump tweeted Thursday morning. Trump was disputing a New York Times report published Tuesday that said the President sought to fire Mueller in December following reports that Mueller was seeking Trump's financial records. CNN has also reported that Trump has wanted to fire Mueller for months.

if Mueller finds evidence of crimes by Trump, his strongest recourse might well be to make a referral to Congress for potential impeachment proceedings. In the interim, the White House tried to pin the firing on Rosenstein himself, who reportedly threatened to resign in protest. As a result, Yeomans

SCHMIDT: Last thing, if Mueller was looking at your finances and your family finances, unrelated to Russia — is that a red line ?… He has the authority to fire Robert Mueller , or more accurately to order Rod Rosenstein to do so, but that puts Trump in position for an impeachment — especially if

"I think there is a process that has to be followed," Sanders said on NBC's Meet the Press. "I think Mr. Mueller is doing a very good job on this investigation. If Mueller brings forth the clear evidence that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, I think you have grounds for impeachment."

An aide to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) said he had not weighed in on the matter.

The remarks from Harris, Warren and Gillibrand could put pressure on Democratic leaders in Congress on the issue of impeachment.

Democratic leaders have been careful to not talk up the issue, worrying it could backfire ahead of midterm elections in which the party is growing more and more confident that it could win the House majority.

Doing so would immediately make impeachment more possible, as Democrats would only need a majority vote in the House. In the Senate, a two-thirds vote is necessary for conviction, which would be a higher bar.

Republicans are telling voters that Democrats are getting ready to impeach Trump, partly to energize the GOP base ahead of the election. They see the argument as an effective one to bring voters to the polls.

Nationwide protests planned if Trump fires Mueller or Rosenstein

  Nationwide protests planned if Trump fires Mueller or Rosenstein U.S. progressive groups are gearing up for nationwide protests should President Donald Trump fire the special counsel investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, or replace the deputy U.S. attorney general overseeing the probe. An ouster of Special Counsel Robert Mueller would signal that Trump was acting as if he was above the law, said MoveOn.org, which is planning 800 demonstrations across the country.Every state will have at least one "Nobody Is Above The Law" rally and at least 320,000 people have pledged to attend so far, according to MoveOn's website.

“If President Trump were to fire Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein, and then got Special Counsel Mueller fired , I believe Congress would begin impeachment proceedings.”

Castro said, “[I]f they continue along that path, it looks like their ultimate goal may be to fire Rosenstein so they can get rid of Mueller , and that would take us right into a constitutional crisis, and I think would get the ball rolling on impeachment for this president.”

"If Democrats gain control of the House in November, I have no doubt they will begin impeachment proceedings," said Republican strategist Alice Stewart. "They want nothing more than to see President Trump removed from office."

But Stewart said Democrats are clearly walking a fine line as to not appear overtly political.

"The problem with telegraphing it early is that it shows swing voters that Democrats can't be trusted to govern or rise about the dysfunction," she said.

In December, about four-dozen Democrats voted to take up a resolution by Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) to impeach Trump but it was shot down by a 364-58 vote.

Tom Steyer, the Democratic activist and billionaire, has spent approximately $40 million on ads pushing for impeachment.

Democratic leaders, however, have consistently resisted the efforts.

"It doesn't do us any favors to be out there pushing for impeachment," said one Democratic strategist. "It's more helpful for the Mueller investigation to play out and then we can take it from there based on the findings."

In a tweet earlier this week, David Axelrod, who served as chief strategist to former President Obama, echoed a similar sentiment. "Dems should NOT commit to impeachment unless & until there's a demonstrable case for one. It is not just a matter of politics. It's a matter of principle. If we normalize impeachment as a political tool, it will be another hammer blow to our Democracy."

In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper on Thursday night, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said Democrats in general should not run on the idea of impeaching Trump.

"It would not be the right thing to do," Nadler said.

Stewart said she attended the small National Republican Campaign Committee dinner where Chairman Steve Stivers (R-Ohio) addressed the threat of impeachment against Trump, as reported this week by the New York Times.

"I agree with his statement that this issue fires up the party base and is beneficial for us to remind voters of this through the midterms," she said.

As Trump fumes, senators craft a bill to protect Mueller .
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