Sport What are odds Pirates trade McCutchen? Probably good

18:01  19 june  2017
18:01  19 june  2017 Source:   FOXSports

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What are the odds that the Pirates trade Andrew McCutchen ? I’m guessing good . Go back to July 30, the day that the Pirates sent reliever Mark Melancon to the Nationals for left-hander Felipe Rivero and minor-league lefty Taylor Hearn.

Extending him probably would too. Maybe the Pirates have good reason to be more confident in McCutchen 's performance going forward than potential trade partners will be In McCutchen 's case, the odds are at least decent that it will, simply because he only has two years of control remaining.

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The Pirates ' best path probably is to hope McCutchen reports to spring training in great shape and quickly puts together a rebound season in 2018. Without knowing when McCutchen is traded or how he's performing at the time, it's difficult to predict what the Pirates could get in return.

Odds . -P- Also, Jim Bowden suggests the Pirates trade McCutchen to the Dodgers for top prospects Jose De Leon (a right-handed starter) and Cody Bellinger (a first baseman).

What are the odds that the Pirates trade Andrew McCutchen?

I’m guessing good.

Go back to July 30, the day that the Pirates sent reliever Mark Melancon to the Nationals for left-hander Felipe Rivero and minor-league lefty Taylor Hearn.

The Pirates were in contention then, just three games out of the second wild-card spot. Their current position — buried in the wild-card race, six games back in the NL Central — is worse. And they just lost two of three to the expected division champion, the second-place Cubs, whom they trail by 3½ games.

It’s not out of the question that the Pirates will rally in the six weeks leading to the non-waiver deadline. More likely, though, they will be in roughly the same position as they were last year, when they traded Melancon and left-hander Francisco Liriano in moves that seemed curious at the time, but — in combination with the acquisition of right-hander Ivan Nova — demonstrated impressive foresight.

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McCutchen would be just fine. Not like Turner has good metrics in center (-3 fangraphs). Without one of the Nats top three or four guys, the Bucs can probably get a better deal elsewhere. What you said cardfan2011 is why the Pirates are pursing a trade with McCutchen right now.

I’ve been wrong before, but I don’t see McCutchen ever being as good as he was . They probably get laughed off the phone but then again there’s no reason to trade him for at least two years. After a year or so it turned out to be one of the best trades in pirates history, not because of the return and

McCutchen, the former MVP who sparked the Pirates’ renaissance, is more of an institution in Pittsburgh than Melancon was. But the Pirates discussed McCutchen in trades last offseason; the shock value of dangling him is gone. And now that McCutchen has revived offensively — producing a 1.157 OPS in his last 90 plate appearances after spending two days out of the lineup and dropping from third to sixth in the batting order — he’s starting to look like this year’s Melancon.

Then again, the Pirates might keep McCutchen, 30, if they come to view themselves as a legitimate contender, even pick up his $14.5 million option if he finishes strong — they’ve carried other players to free agency before, most notably catcher Russell Martin and righty A.J. Burnett.

Indeed, the case for holding McCutchen is not without merit, considering the uncertainties the Pirates face in their outfield.

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Giants. Odds . The Giants would probably be interested in a trade , but other teams will offer up better prospects. Of all the big names available in trade , Pirates center fielder Andrew McCutchen might be the most likely to go.

2017 Playoff Odds , Playoff Odds Graphs. The reality of the Pirates ’ situation is that the commitment to McCutchen probably isn’t forever. One reason not to trade McCutchen , then, is that the Pirates aren’t bad. Bad teams are supposed to be the ones trading good players.

Starling Marte, 28, is scheduled to return from his 80-game suspension for performance-enhancing drugs shortly after the All-Star break, but the Pirates won’t know by the deadline if he will be the same player as before. Gregory Polanco, 25, has produced only a .679 OPS this season, but some of his regression might be due to his .271 batting average on balls in play. Top prospect Austin Meadows, meanwhile, has only a .676 OPS at Triple A, though he just turned 22.

Still, the Pirates almost certainly will continue betting on Polanco and Meadows. They’ve got Marte under control through 2021 at salaries that will be reasonable even if he becomes a lesser player. And they know that they actually improved after their deadline trades last season — they were a half-game out of a playoff spot on Aug. 28 before injuries wrecked them in September.

If they traded McCutchen, they would not necessarily be conceding — they could replace him with Meadows or perhaps someone they acquired in a trade, maybe another outfielder, maybe an infielder who would allow Adam Frazier and/or Josh Harrison to play more outfield.

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Odds . Shop. It’s easy to understand why the Pirates wouldn’t want to trade McCutchen . At 30 years old, he should still have a few years of good production left, and it would be very difficult for the team to even come close to replacing him in the next few years.

But despite having a few arrows pointing in the direction of trading McCutchen , I don’t think this is the right time for the Pirates to move their best player. Acknowledging the obvious, McCutchen ’s current struggles would mean that any

Again, go back to last year’s deadline.

Nova proved a revelation, and the Pirates re-signed him to a three-year, $26 million free-agent contract. Rivero emerged as a top reliever, one the Nationals could use right now. Even the most controversial deal — Liriano and two prospects to the Blue Jays for righty Drew Hutchison – has worked to the Pirates’ advantage.

Escaping Liriano’s $13 million commitment for 2017 not only saved the Pirates from a pitcher who currently has a 5.36 ERA, but also created the flexibility for them to re-sign Nova, extend third baseman David Freese and sign free-agent reliever Daniel Hudson.

The rest of the deal, to this point, is a wash. Hutchison, currently at Triple A, has not been what the Pirates envisioned, but the prospects who went to the Blue Jays, catcher Reese McGuire and outfielder Harold Ramirez, are struggling at Double A.

The Pirates did not tear down a year ago, and even if they trade McCutchen they do not intend to tear down now, according to sources with knowledge of their thinking. Hence, they are unlikely to trade right-hander Gerrit Cole before the deadline, not when they control him for two seasons after this one.

Cole, Nova and righty Jameson Taillon will give them a formidable top three through at least 2018, and they’ve got any number of young pitchers who might fill the other two spots — Tyler Glasnow, Chad Kuhl, Trevor Williams, Steven Brault, Nick Kingham.

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Fanshots. Pirates . Odds . Both McCutchen and the Pirates would probably give a hearty "no" to that one. Don't rule out the possibility that the Pirates trade McCutchen in the offseason, either this winter or in 2017-18, by the way.

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The formula has not worked this season, in part because the Pirates lost Marte and third baseman Jung Ho Kang, in part because McCutchen barely contributed for two months, in part because Cole produced four straight miserable starts in late May and early June.

Doesn’t mean it won’t work in the future. Doesn’t mean it won’t work without McCutchen.

Arrieta conceded effect of workload

Cubs right-hander Jake Arrieta acknowledged to me Friday what a lot of people have been thinking: That his workloads the past two seasons have taken a toll on his pitching.

“As much as we don’t want to say that it carries over from season to season, throwing almost 500 innings over the past two years, I think it did have some effect,” said Arrieta, who threw a combined 468 1/3 innings in 2015-16, including postseason.

“I’m not hurt or injured. It’s just that I think my body has reacted accordingly and it’s taken a little bit longer to regain the form that I would like to be in.”

Only one pitcher, Max Scherzer, has thrown more innings than Arrieta since the start of ’15. Scherzer, however, has experienced no decline in performance, and he’s more than two years older than Arrieta, who turned 31 on March 6.

Hall of Fame pitcher John Smoltz, after I mentioned Arrieta’s remarks during Saturday’s Cubs-Pirates broadcast on FOX, said that too much emphasis is placed on innings in today’s game, and correctly noted that Cubs manager Joe Maddon protected his starters as much as possible during the 2016 regular season — Arrieta threw 197 1/3 innings, down from 229 the year before.

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Standings. Stats. Odds . Tickets. Campus. 1:20 | MLB. Would the Pirates do the unthinkable and trade Andrew McCutchen ? The Pirates ' offense hasn't been much better , ranking 11th at 4.55 runs per game. His million per year price tag is affordable, so Huntington would probably have to be bowled over to move him.

Andrew McCutchen signed an incredibly team-friendly 6 year/.5M deal back in Spring Training of 2012. The Pirates kept their best player! The sound and the fury will be at a fever pitch the day the Pirates trade McCutchen .

Still, Arrieta started Games 2 and 6 of the World Series and warmed up for a potential relief appearance on zero days’ rest in Game 7. While most starting pitchers rest in October, the ones who reach the World Series work not only for an extra month, but at maximum effort the entire time.

Each of the Cubs’ principal starters is performing worse than he did last season, and righty Kyle Hendricks currently is on the DL with right hand tendinitis. The Indians’ starters who pitched in the World Series also have regressed, and ace righty Corey Kluber earlier missed nearly a month with a lower back strain.

Arrieta, a free agent at the end of the season, has a 4.64 ERA after 14 starts. His average fastball velocity is down from 93.6 mph to 91.8, according to Fangraphs. He said he is learning to pitch differently, placing a greater emphasis on command, changing speeds, disrupting hitters’ timing.

“That’s just another facet of the game that you have to try and perfect, using information that hitters give you vs., ‘Ok, I’ve got 95 to 97, let’s throw a sinker, middle down, and see what happens.’” Arrieta said.

“I can still do that quite a bit. But there are two or three guys in each lineup where it doesn’t matter how hard you throw, if it’s in the area they’re looking, they’re probably going to do some damage.

“It’s trying to pitch away from guys’ slug, knowing where their hot zones are, pitching accordingly. But at the same time, if I have three or more pitches working that day, it still doesn’t matter that much.

“The delivery is close to where I’d like it. I’m really commanding the ball glove-side, fastballs to my glove side, whether it’s in to lefties or away to righties. With my delivery, if I command that pitch, it’ll make it difficult on guys.”

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Arrieta, in our conversation Friday, also revealed that he has been dealing with a difficult family matter – about two weeks ago, his mother-in-law, Debbie Andrews, underwent her second brain operation in six months.

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There were a whole faction of Pirates fans who in the offseason promised to jump ship when the team traded McCutchen . That group has been awfully quiet now. redrage97. Welp i’ve been saying if he isn’t .250/.330 by teh end of the month he probably isn’t going to be much better than .250 at the end

The first surgery removed a tumor; the second, which took place at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, Az., repaired an aneurysm. The good news, according to Arrieta: Debbie recovered “extremely well.”

Arrieta said he rented a house in Arizona so his wife, Brittany, and two children could be close to Debbie, and he joined them on an off-day June 1 when the Cubs were traveling between San Diego and Chicago.

The situation, he said, did not affect his pitching in any way.

“Not at all,” Arrieta said. “Did I think about it? Did I worry about it a lot? Yes. But I was still able to separate – I have to train, I have to prepare, I have to scout, I have to go pitch.
“A lot of my day was concerned with (Debbie). But while I was here I was able to focus on certain aspects of the game. It’s something we have to do … That’s what this game calls for. Sometimes you have to be mentally tough enough to put some things out of your mind.”

Padres showing their Hand

One rival executive says the Padres are looking for a “Will Smith-type return” for left-handed reliever Brad Hand, who is under control for two-plus seasons.

Such an ask might appear aggressive – Smith was under control for three-plus seasons at last year’s deadline when the Brewers sent him to the Giants for minor-league right-hander Phil Bickford and catcher Andrew Susac.

Hand, though, is performing better than Smith was then, with 48 strikeouts, 12 walks and a 2.84 ERA in 38 innings. Hand also has been healthy all season; Smith missed the first two months of 2016 due to a torn LCL in his right knee.

In any case, the Smith trade has been a disappointment for both clubs.

Smith underwent Tommy John surgery in April. Bickford, the 18th overall pick in the 2015 draft, is serving a 50-game suspension after testing positive a second time for a drug of abuse. And Susac, who twice has been on the disabled list this season, is batting .151 with a .504 OPS at Triple A.

The Freak (East Coast version)

Orioles third baseman Manny Machado is still batting only .217 with a .715 OPS, but his brother-in-law, Athletics first baseman Yonder Alonso, said not to worry.

“When Manny gets hot, he gets hot,” Alonso said. “I don’t worry about too much about him. He’s such a freak.

“The things he does, nobody else does. I can’t do things he does. He tells me things in the batting cage that I should try. I’m just like, ‘I just can’t do those things. I’m not 6-3 (Alonso is 6-1). I don’t have long arms. Your wingspan is humongous. I don’t have that.’

“You should see him on the basketball court. He does windmills and dunks it. He does a 360 and dunks it. I’m like, ‘How do you do that?’”

Around the Horn

-- Don’t expect the Cubs to give up any of their young major-league hitters in a trade, knowing that they could be making a major mistake if they overreact to a few bad months from any one player.

The bottom line is that prospects do not always follow a linear progression, and some of the Cubs’ youngsters are remarkably inexperienced, even though all but Ian Happ played in the World Series.

Kyle Schwarber has 533 regular-season plate appearances, Willson Contreras 489, Albert Almora Jr. 259 and Happ 118.

-- The Pirates’ Rivero on the reception he received in Pittsburgh after arriving in the Melancon trade:

“At first, the fans were tough,” he said. “People were asking, ‘Who are you?’ I was like, ‘Man, people don’t know me here. What am I doing here?’ But after two or three weeks, after I started pitching, they were excited about what they got. This year, they’re crazy about me. I’m home right now.”

-- Want a comp on Rockies rookie right-hander Jeff Hoffman, who has a 2.25 ERA in 32 innings?

Cubs catcher Miguel Montero offered a good one: Josh Beckett.

Hoffman is 6-foot-5, 217 pounds; Beckett at the end of his career was listed at 6-5, 230.

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